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Post by pistik123 Sat May 15, 2010 4:19 am

Hey all, I am still quite new to poker. But in last days of my playing I heard a lots of time in poker a word LIMP...... i tried to found what this is??? Im dont understand everything in english..well i try..... so my question is what is LIMP or limping???

Is that some kind of tactic/strategy i can use by tourneys? And when is this good to use in poker?
Sorry if i give maybe for you too simple question but i can see there is lots of talking here about poker so wonder if anyone can explain this to me

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Post by The Big Donk Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:05 am

This is a good question that deserves some attention. I remember when I first started playing poker and people use all this poker lingo and I had no effing clue what any of them were talking about.

But beyond that you bring up an interesting point to mind about the strategy of limping.

Sorry for the long overdue answer, but better late than never, eh?

Let's start it off with the definition:

LIMP

adj limp [limp] - lacking stiffness or strength; a drooping limp lettuce, a limp excuse, a limp penis requiring Viagra.

v - to walk in an uneven manner (usually because one has hurt one's foot or leg); He twisted his ankle and came limping home.

n - the act of limping; He walks with a limp.

poker lingo - To enter into a hand without raising.

Limping in is when a player comes into a pot preflop by just calling the amount of the big blind, and not raising any amount before the flop.

Now this is slightly different than calling after someone else has raised. When this happens, it is typically referred to as smooth-calling, or a flat-call.

For me, the strategy of limping in is an art form. I vary my style pretty widely when I play, so I can't say that any one way is the right or the wrong way to do it. but I can say that when done right and when the hands are played well, limping in certain situations can be very profitable.

For example, limping in with big hands such as AK or QQ can wreak havoc on your opponents chipstack and often save your own stack from unnecessary downswings. Allow me to illustrate.

Many people like to raise with AK. Hell, most people do. But for the sake of this discussion, I'm going to limp in with it all over the place. (Interestingly, I am actually playing poker online right now as I write this. I was just dealt AK and decided to limp in with it as there was already a player who limped in UTG [under the gun... the seat directly to the left of the Big Blind.] I flopped an Ace and took down a nice little cash pot)

Back to my original point. Let's say that I am in early position with AK. If I limp in and the flop comes all low cards, I can simply check and get away from the hand fo very cheap when someone else bets. If i hit an Ace or a King on the flop, I can fire off bets, check & call, or even check-raise, depending on what I think will get me the most chips.

If on the other hand I had raised in that same exact situation, what would I have done if I had missed the flop? Bet again, possibly just feeding even more chips into a pot I'm probably going to lose? Or check now after I have already raised and then most likely get bet right off of the pot, thereby forfeiting all of the money I had put into the pot preflop.

Let's look at a different scenario.

This time I have AK from the button, and I raise. If I hit a pair on the flop, everyone will assume that I have a hand like AK (after all, I basically announced my hand with my raise), they'll assume the flop helped me, and they'll simply fold when I bet.

If on the other hand I had raised from the button with AK and the flop came 4 7 9 rainbow. Now my opponents are going to realize that I flop like that probably didn't help my hand. A player with 6 7 might sniff out my bullshit if i try to bluff and whoops.... more of my chips slide across the table into someone else's stack.

Now of course, had I limped in instead, when that flop came 4 7 9, everyone at the table would be more likely to believe I had a hand like 8 9 or 9 10 (since I just limped in) and therefore would be more liekly to fold to my ace-high bluff.

Transversely, if the flop is something like AK4, a player with say, something like AQ or AJ would not likely put you on AK (since you didn't raise) and will be much more likely to give you all of their chips.

Of course that one way of looking at it, and I typically have certain situations where I raise, and certain situations where I limp.

If I am in early position, I am more likely to limp. From late postion, I am more likely to raise.

If there are limpers ahead of me, I am more likely to limp. If everyone ahead of me has folded, I am more likely to raise.

If my hand is weak, I am more likely to limp (yes I will sometimes raise with weak hands for various reasons). If my hand is strong, i am more likely to raise.

Finally, though I have listed a few of the advantages to limping, always remember that there are disadvantages:

Not raising allows the player in the Big Blind to play a hand he might have otherwise thrown away. If you limp in with AK and the BB has 2 7 offsuit, you could end up in real big trouble if the flop hits K 2 7.

Another disadvantage is that a cheap price invites more players to see the flop, and more players decreases your chances of winning, even with the immortal Aces.

And remember, practice makes perfect... and if anyone ever wants any lessons, meet me at the nearest poker table with a stack of chips, and I'll give you the best lessons I can muster! ;-)

Or you can always come here and ask.... and that's always ri$k-free!
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Post by datsme53 Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:09 pm

Very good question and a very good post answer TBD. There are so many different scenarios.. that is would be difficult and possibly confusing to try to give examples of them all. Limping in ..yes... can be a strategy indeed. I use it myself in certain situations and against certain player depending on a wide variety of circumstances.

One other thing I thought I'd interject here... punishing limpers. This is a strategy used by a lot of players.. especially aggressive players. If there are a lot of limpers .. they will make a very large raise in order to punish players for trying to limp in. You can pick up on this strategy and make it backfire on them quite a lot at times. They many times will make a big raise... to get everyone to fold.. thinking that since everyone limped in.. they must not have very strong hands at all. By limping in with a very strong hand occasionally.. you can take advantage of aggressive players. I don't like to make a habit of this.. but it can pay off handsomely when taking on aggressive players.
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