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Post by mccloskey on Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:27 am

now this isnt a majoranything but there is too much of this going on especially on merge network i was playing in a freeoll on carbon poker and for varuious reasons iknow for a fact that this guy Mihala3 was running three accounts at te same time he got to the final table with all accounts and was dumping chips like nobodies buisness only leaving hi sother accounts ith enough so that he could still see a pir of extra cards now this was only a freeoll i grant you but what is stopping him doin this in any other way shape or form i say keep vigilant root out the cheats Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Guest on Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:20 pm

well thanks for the heads up put his name on my list to watch out for ty mccloskey u would think the sites would have a way to stop that type of manipulation with the ip address especiallu all the trouble i had tryin to register on carbon seeing i was already on the sister site pdc. we all dont need to be cheated lol . glat the tables . trucker103!

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Post by mccloskey on Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:37 pm

unfortunatley mate most house holds these days ahve at least two compuers in them if ot 3 or four thats the modern world for ya i remeber when all w had for entertainment was an atari 2600 with a joy stick that broke your wrist lol now the kids are taking over the information superhighway and fleasing poker players out of beer money lol

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Post by Jeester on Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:41 pm

I've heard of people having more than one account registered to a freeroll so if they go out they can continue to play...but not this. very interesting. thanks for the heads up, I wonder how many other do it...

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Post by konawajim on Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:22 pm

TURN them in
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Post by mccloskey on Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:35 pm

problem withthat is everyone else at the table realized too and the all sid the were gona report him but i think everyone left it too each other to do ,apathy in action, so proving i dificult but tere was no doubt he was doing it i saw him the other day in a tourney and started saying it to him and he nevrsaid a ord if thats not guilt i dont know hwat is, if someone accused m of that id go of my head at them

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Post by burntaces on Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:10 pm

Just curious how you know for a fact that he was using three accounts at the same time? I mean it would be pretty hard to know this unless you are right there, or he told you. I hate cheaters and colluders, i just was curious how you know.
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Post by mccloskey on Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:19 pm

well earlier in proceedings he made the mistake of apologising for taking so long as he had 4 games running now i just took that as ok fair enough until later when various things happend he was getting into hands with "other player" when his chips dropped and unless he is agenis and the other player was a complete zombie it was staged the player was calling allin with rubbish not even a pair after all the community cards were dealt i why would they do that he was also dumping chips and getting his other players to call right until the river when they had aleady put 99 percent of there chips in leaving them with say 50 chips and they just folde mysteriously this was happening lots and to really appreciate it yo had to be at the final table also it was pretty easy to spot as this freeol did not have many entrants this is why i think he thought hey i can take full advantage here also the table ws in uproar and he never even denied it not cast iron proof i know but what proof without a frank admission could i really ge im as near to 100 percent sure as i can be really,,,, if he thinks its slander he can conslt a lawyer but i think we both know he int doing that ,, i only wrote this to warn ppl it can do no harm to him if hes innocent and can do no harm to warn ppl Very Happy

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Post by --buttrflykzs-- on Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:40 pm

as mentioned its easy to play more than one account as most households do have more than one computer the hubby, wife, kids (if old enough) can all be registered on various sites
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Post by DizzyDog on Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:46 pm

Shocked scared me....thought it was gonna say "tinman" for a secnd there! lol jk i don't cheat. takes all the fun out of the game....but it does happen.there are all kinds of ways to cheat, both online and live....from micro to histakes....its all a part f the game....there a million things a good poker play watches 4 n battles against in evry hand at every table.....cheatings just one of them.
too bad its not like the old days when they used to just pull out the old 6shooter and bust a cap in a cheat.

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Post by KEVINfromHB on Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:14 pm

I've heard about this before. I can see that it would be an unfair advantage, and I don't need that. I'm already handicapped enough as it is!!
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Post by KEVINfromHB on Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:15 pm

DizzyDog wrote:Shocked
too bad its not like the old days when they used to just pull out the old 6shooter and bust a cap in a cheat.

And i fully agree with this!!!
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Post by mlkmn5029 on Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:54 pm

i can tell u now if those accounts were usuing same ip address it would not let them into same tourney. me and my sister tried to get into a funstep 1 and an alert came up that some1 with same ip address was in tourney and it wouldn't let her register. they can play on same site but not same tourneys

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Post by datsme53 on Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:44 pm

Well, I know what was said about IP addresses is true. You can't play in the same tourney that way and I think it isn't easy to have 2 accounts on the same IP address for that matter...even that shouldn't be allowed, but you have laptops with wireless routers in buildings that have many different IP addresses. You don't have to be just one person to pull this cheat. It doesn't take much to bring several laptops into one room and play a tournament or a ring game for that matter and be at the same table too. Cheating does go on... even online poker... watch for signs of it happening. I have seen it a few times and it wasn't always at a freeroll! Beware when playing online poker that this type of cheating can and has went on. It is usually caught, but I'll bet it hasn't always been discovered for sure!

Some of these wireless routers have a pretty good range on them! Think about it... how would you like to be playing a cash game when 4 or 5 or maybe more are at your table playing in the same room on laptops where they can see ALL of their cards when playing every hand! For that matter, you can get ethernet cables that are very long too! How would you like to play against those odds! Some of these online poker games have pretty high stakes that aren't private tables... so again... beware!

If you see this going on and your sure it is a cheat taking place...
even if it's a freeroll.... turn them in and try to get others at the
table to turn them in too. They might just be trying it out to see how
well it works before they go for higher stakes tables!

There is more than one reason why I don't like to play more than very small stakes, or just freerolls, when playing online poker.


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Post by Xcptn2therule on Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:19 pm

Thanks for the heads up... Although this activity is illegal on most sites, I know it still happens. Generally, they WILL catch you because they can verify the multiple accounts by IP Address. And they will, and have closed all account using multiple acounts, confiscated the funds from those accounts, and distributed them to the effected tables.

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Post by Veteran68 on Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:15 pm

Hi all, first post, and since I'm a paid computer geek I figured why not post here. Smile

In the case of most homes and businesses, if people within the building or room are connecting to the internet through the same router (whether wired or wireless) and internet account, then they will all have the same shared internet IP. The unique local IPs of each computer are private and do not go out over the internet.

There are some exceptions, however:

  1. As mentioned, in a multi-dwelling unit like an apartment or dorm, there may be a lot of people with different internet accounts and wireless routers within range of each other. People could conceivably get together and each person hit a different router. These would be virtually impossible to catch as cheaters unless they did something really stupid to identify themselves as such.
  2. Some universities actually assign each student their own static IP address that follows them around no matter where they plug-in or connect wireless on campus. In that case every PC in the room *would* have different IPs, and again would be nearly impossible to prove as cheaters.
But I think by far the most common method of online collusion is not between people physically nearby, but from telephone and IM chat. Buddies hook up at the same table and get on the phone/chat with each other, disclosing their hole cards, squeezing unsuspecting opponents, and dumping chips.

Also, some sites like PokerStars have no problem with other PC's in the same household with the same IP connecting and playing at the same time, you just can't play at the same table or in the same tourney. My wife has her own Stars account and we both play at the same time, but she's upstairs doing her own thing (usually SnG's), and I'm downstairs in my office doing something else. I made sure to notify Stars before she signed up, to be sure it was okay, and they told me it was fine as long as we didn't play in the same game.

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Post by RazorBacker1 on Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:31 pm

Hi, how is he doing it?? 4 computers ?? or one with cheating hardand software??...... in any case im with the sixshooter guy, bust a cap, that guy was stealing money from a freeroll. smokem out... thanks for the info... Razor
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Post by muck24 on Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:02 pm

Of cause the sites are tracking the IPs but if you manage to conect through diferent routers (eg WIFI of the neighbor) its no problem to play multiaccounting.

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Post by slyone66 on Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:11 am

thats pretty interested stuff. after watching truckers video on u tube last night. i stayed on and was checking out all the poker scandals and cheating methods it has. it also mentions pokerstars which i was suprised by. i knew about AP and UB. what it comes down to it. there are scumbags everywhere trying to take your money whether on the internet or in person. so i guess we should all take that old warning a little more seriously "BUYER BEWARE"
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Post by ubeenshanked on Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:48 am

mlkmn5029 wrote:i can tell u now if those accounts were usuing same ip address it would not let them into same tourney. me and my sister tried to get into a funstep 1 and an alert came up that some1 with same ip address was in tourney and it wouldn't let her register. they can play on same site but not same tourneys
That depends on the site because my mom and I have played in the same tournies before and we live in the same home
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Post by marlinzNZ on Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:57 pm

sounds dodgy

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Post by artgar11 on Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:16 am

cuchi

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Post by Roller on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:33 pm

Cheating ....

Now that's one thing that will get my attention.
If you have an opportunity to report this kind of activity, PLEASE DO. If you can take advantage of the collusion then take every chip there is to take. I have no issue playing one on one and if I loose then so be it, but if I loose because others are cheating, NOT COOL.

Please do not tolerate cheating.

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