plo hand ...

don't think we've had a plo hand history yet ... so this one from a tournament this afternoon at full tilt seems adequate:

Pot Limit Omaha Hi

Seat 1: kaulas (5,280)
Seat 2: king of chance (1,425)
Seat 3: Jonathan Hartig (1,657)
Seat 4: doctor1foot (1,455), is sitting out
Seat 5: PatrickJam (1,440)
Seat 6: singsgood33 (3,787)
Seat 7: FishNewYork (1,500), is sitting out
Seat 8: thestatens1 (788)
Seat 9: higherdraw (1,065)
PatrickJam posts the small blind of 15
singsgood33 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to higherdraw [Jc Ks 7c Jh]
FishNewYork folds
thestatens1 calls 30
higherdraw calls 30
kaulas calls 30
king of chance has 15 seconds left to act
king of chance calls 30
Jonathan Hartig calls 30
doctor1foot folds
PatrickJam calls 15
singsgood33 checks

*** FLOP *** [8h 8c 7d]
PatrickJam checks
singsgood33 checks
thestatens1 has 15 seconds left to act
thestatens1 checks
higherdraw checks
kaulas bets 60
king of chance calls 60
Jonathan Hartig calls 60
PatrickJam folds
singsgood33 calls 60
thestatens1 calls 60
higherdraw calls 60

*** TURN *** [8h 8c 7d] [Js]
singsgood33 checks
thestatens1 checks
higherdraw checks
kaulas bets 90
king of chance has 15 seconds left to act
king of chance folds
Jonathan Hartig calls 90
singsgood33 has 15 seconds left to act
singsgood33 folds
thestatens1 folds
higherdraw raises to 240
kaulas has 15 seconds left to act
kaulas calls 150
Jonathan Hartig calls 150

*** RIVER *** [8h 8c 7d Js] [9c]
higherdraw bets 735, and is all in
kaulas has 15 seconds left to act
kaulas raises to 1,470
Jonathan Hartig folds
Uncalled bet of 735 returned to kaulas

*** SHOW DOWN ***
kaulas shows [8s 8d Kc Td] four of a kind, Eights
higherdraw mucks
kaulas wins the pot (2,760) with four of a kind, Eights
higherdraw stands up
The blinds are now 20/40

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,760 | Rake 0
Board: [8h 8c 7d Js 9c]
Seat 1: kaulas showed [8s 8d Kc Td] and won (2,760) with four of a kind, Eights
Seat 2: king of chance folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Jonathan Hartig folded on the River
Seat 4: doctor1foot (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: PatrickJam (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: singsgood33 (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: FishNewYork didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: thestatens1 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: higherdraw mucked [Jc Ks 7c Jh] - a full house, Jacks full of Eights

Ouch. I can appreciate how nasty that happened. You didn't do a single thing wrong, either... he just happened to hit that on the flop, and (to his credit) played it as though he had any one of several second-best hands (until the river). His bet of 60 on the flop was the only thing suspicious, but it could have been so many things. Odds made folding a mistake and then your doom card hit. Totally rainbow too... that means he's either a weak player / holdem crossover (totally possible early in a tourney for a donk to hit 5k) who thought straight could be good with pair on board, or he had a full house or better... but how'r you going to guess at the "or better" part...

Curious if anything else could possibly have hit on the turn that would have made you stay in till showdown. Perhaps if a club hit (and you know he'd bet small no matter what hit) the turn. Of course, if the river was the same and the turn was the 10c, he'd be posting how he lost with 8888 for trying to let you make a flush/boat and sandbagging.

Also first post, welcome forum seems a little... slow and overtopic'd, so I skipped it, but I like what I've read of the forum so far, this seems like a cool little community, no jerks in sight... so yeah, hi and stuff

did the extra time he took in calling on the flop..lead you to beleive he didnt hit?was that a factor?i see it as a well played hand by both players,but i am wondering if the extra time taken by the player lead you to beleive he was calling on a draw?